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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and comments. I&#039;m coming to this late but it&#039;s of course still timely!

We&#039;re getting married soon, and my parents have had a lot of influence in the wedding planning. My FH truly doesn&#039;t care about most of the details - he wants a meaningful ceremony, and he wants to be able to focus on getting married rather than food/decorations/making sure everyone gets along. I&#039;m less interested in the details as it gets closer too - my mom cares the most, so we&#039;re leaving many of the decisions to her. 

What FH IS excited about is being married to me, and he tells me so frequently. He&#039;s really committed to me and our relationship, and after 4+ years of dating and 1.5 years of living together, and lots of talks about our expectations and wants, he knows &quot;what he&#039;s getting into.&quot; Which gets me to my point (sorry for rambling) - it drives me crazy when other men warn him about marriage and try to talk him out of it. Especially when his FATHER does it. As commenters above have said, if he didn&#039;t want to marry me he wouldn&#039;t have asked. It&#039;s degrading to both of us when others assume that he doesn&#039;t know what he&#039;s doing and that I will make his life worse, not better. 

Those comments seem to come from men who are not happy with their marriages and don&#039;t take responsibility for their relationships. Is that your experience too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and comments. I&#8217;m coming to this late but it&#8217;s of course still timely!</p>
<p>We&#8217;re getting married soon, and my parents have had a lot of influence in the wedding planning. My FH truly doesn&#8217;t care about most of the details &#8211; he wants a meaningful ceremony, and he wants to be able to focus on getting married rather than food/decorations/making sure everyone gets along. I&#8217;m less interested in the details as it gets closer too &#8211; my mom cares the most, so we&#8217;re leaving many of the decisions to her. </p>
<p>What FH IS excited about is being married to me, and he tells me so frequently. He&#8217;s really committed to me and our relationship, and after 4+ years of dating and 1.5 years of living together, and lots of talks about our expectations and wants, he knows &#8220;what he&#8217;s getting into.&#8221; Which gets me to my point (sorry for rambling) &#8211; it drives me crazy when other men warn him about marriage and try to talk him out of it. Especially when his FATHER does it. As commenters above have said, if he didn&#8217;t want to marry me he wouldn&#8217;t have asked. It&#8217;s degrading to both of us when others assume that he doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s doing and that I will make his life worse, not better. </p>
<p>Those comments seem to come from men who are not happy with their marriages and don&#8217;t take responsibility for their relationships. Is that your experience too?</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When one of my friends got married last year, her husband took her maiden name as a middle name.  When they went to do the official name changes, the clerk told him, &quot;You can&#039;t change your name, you&#039;re a man.&quot;  He had to speak to her supervisor to get it processed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one of my friends got married last year, her husband took her maiden name as a middle name.  When they went to do the official name changes, the clerk told him, &#8220;You can&#8217;t change your name, you&#8217;re a man.&#8221;  He had to speak to her supervisor to get it processed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dedispol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dedispol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, Hear! In this society, men&#039;s emotions and reactions are completely marginalized. It&#039;s nice to know that my fiance, Keith, is not the only man out there with the ability to be a complete human being. The only thing we, as  women, can do is to keep encouraging the men around us to step out of the stereotypical &quot;sitcom assh*ole&quot; role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, Hear! In this society, men&#39;s emotions and reactions are completely marginalized. It&#39;s nice to know that my fiance, Keith, is not the only man out there with the ability to be a complete human being. The only thing we, as  women, can do is to keep encouraging the men around us to step out of the stereotypical &quot;sitcom assh*ole&quot; role.</p>
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		<title>By: basketcase</title>
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		<dc:creator>basketcase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Emily - Yikes with the fiance not being wanted at a booking meeting!! My Fiance is the money, and has signed all paperwork that relates to money - the deposit on the venue and photographer so far. I do the research, he gets involved in making the final decisions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only complaint I get from him is that sometimes I discuss things (like when we are making the invitations) with my BridesMaid, and forget to tell him what we have discussed, so the first he hears is &quot;Oh, we are doing this...&quot;. I have to work on that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Emily &#8211; Yikes with the fiance not being wanted at a booking meeting!! My Fiance is the money, and has signed all paperwork that relates to money &#8211; the deposit on the venue and photographer so far. I do the research, he gets involved in making the final decisions.</p>
<p>The only complaint I get from him is that sometimes I discuss things (like when we are making the invitations) with my BridesMaid, and forget to tell him what we have discussed, so the first he hears is &quot;Oh, we are doing this&#8230;&quot;. I have to work on that one!</p>
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		<title>By: lupinbunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>lupinbunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once we started getting contracts and whatnot together I decided we needed something to put them in, and one of those wedding planning binders with the pre-printed dividers seemed like a good idea. Until I discovered that *every single one* was for brides-only. The picture on the front would be of just a bride. One I found was actually titled &quot;My Wedding&quot;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We ended up buying a plain blue binder and blank dividers writing &quot;Gettin&#039; Hitched&quot; down the spine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW, while I shortlist vendors, BCB is the one who deals with them when it comes to getting quotes and all that jazz. Which is pretty much how our relationship always works. I plan, he executes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once we started getting contracts and whatnot together I decided we needed something to put them in, and one of those wedding planning binders with the pre-printed dividers seemed like a good idea. Until I discovered that *every single one* was for brides-only. The picture on the front would be of just a bride. One I found was actually titled &quot;My Wedding&quot;!</p>
<p>We ended up buying a plain blue binder and blank dividers writing &quot;Gettin&#39; Hitched&quot; down the spine.</p>
<p>BTW, while I shortlist vendors, BCB is the one who deals with them when it comes to getting quotes and all that jazz. Which is pretty much how our relationship always works. I plan, he executes.</p>
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		<title>By: brendalynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>brendalynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, love this post! My fiance has been opinionated from the get-go, and probably kept us from eloping b/c of HIS desire to have a real, live wedding. I treasure this in him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I&#039;ve been surprised by who has made subtle objections to his involvement. Some of my closest friends have attempted to sympathize with me: &quot;Wow, trying to plan a wedding with your fiance must be so irritating!&quot; Um. What? And my parents have also stated clearly that the wedding is &quot;our family&quot; thing, and really the groom&#039;s family--or ahem, the groom--doesn&#039;t have to be involved in planning the wedding pretty much at all. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve responded firmly and politely. But... still surprised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, and can I just say @Meg: Have you finished reading Elizabeth Gilbert&#039;s &quot;Committed&quot; yet? I read it, loved it, and based on your comments in this post (and OK, your whole wonderful blog) I imagine you might find a more kindred soul there than you may have imagined. Thanks to these two man-focused posts, Chabon&#039;s &quot;Manhood&quot; is next on my (recently Chabon-heavy) reading list. Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, love this post! My fiance has been opinionated from the get-go, and probably kept us from eloping b/c of HIS desire to have a real, live wedding. I treasure this in him.</p>
<p>But I&#39;ve been surprised by who has made subtle objections to his involvement. Some of my closest friends have attempted to sympathize with me: &quot;Wow, trying to plan a wedding with your fiance must be so irritating!&quot; Um. What? And my parents have also stated clearly that the wedding is &quot;our family&quot; thing, and really the groom&#39;s family&#8211;or ahem, the groom&#8211;doesn&#39;t have to be involved in planning the wedding pretty much at all. </p>
<p>I&#39;ve responded firmly and politely. But&#8230; still surprised.</p>
<p>Oh, and can I just say @Meg: Have you finished reading Elizabeth Gilbert&#39;s &quot;Committed&quot; yet? I read it, loved it, and based on your comments in this post (and OK, your whole wonderful blog) I imagine you might find a more kindred soul there than you may have imagined. Thanks to these two man-focused posts, Chabon&#39;s &quot;Manhood&quot; is next on my (recently Chabon-heavy) reading list. Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KD&lt;br /&gt;I think that&#039;s my point. We should all pay more attention. I mean, I live in San Francisco dude, where men are allowed to do ANYTHING... like take you on dates to drag performances anything (check, check, check). But that doesn&#039;t mean this stuff isn&#039;t still there - commercials, movies, magazines, assholes you talk to in passing... it&#039;s all around. And when we start thinking it&#039;s ok to think and talk about it, and say it&#039;s not ok, THAT&#039;S when things start to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KD<br />I think that&#39;s my point. We should all pay more attention. I mean, I live in San Francisco dude, where men are allowed to do ANYTHING&#8230; like take you on dates to drag performances anything (check, check, check). But that doesn&#39;t mean this stuff isn&#39;t still there &#8211; commercials, movies, magazines, assholes you talk to in passing&#8230; it&#39;s all around. And when we start thinking it&#39;s ok to think and talk about it, and say it&#39;s not ok, THAT&#39;S when things start to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KD, that article is hysterical! it practically mocks itself it&#039;s so absurd.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Saint Mae, sadly that shirt doesn&#039;t make me want to laugh, only cry. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Sarah, I hope my comment didn&#039;t sound like I was criticizing anyone for their various responses to other people&#039;s rudeness. I think it&#039;s too bad their isn&#039;t an easy way to call people on their asshattery, you know? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It upsets me that other people get to say these comments the belittle your partnership (while reinforcing sexism and sometimes homophobia) and their line of thought is so pervasive and socially acceptable that it&#039;s your responsibility to, more or less, take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KD, that article is hysterical! it practically mocks itself it&#39;s so absurd.</p>
<p>@Saint Mae, sadly that shirt doesn&#39;t make me want to laugh, only cry. </p>
<p>@Sarah, I hope my comment didn&#39;t sound like I was criticizing anyone for their various responses to other people&#39;s rudeness. I think it&#39;s too bad their isn&#39;t an easy way to call people on their asshattery, you know? </p>
<p>It upsets me that other people get to say these comments the belittle your partnership (while reinforcing sexism and sometimes homophobia) and their line of thought is so pervasive and socially acceptable that it&#39;s your responsibility to, more or less, take it.</p>
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		<title>By: KD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post - I guess it&#039;s easy to overlook that bias when it doesn&#039;t surround you immediately. I guess I should feel thankful for that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My boyfriend and I did have a good laugh over this article though...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.ehow.com/how_2029326_haircut-groom-wedding.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;particularly the later steps in the process. Ummm are you marrying a 12-year old? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;oh and @McV... you made me laugh out loud at my desk &quot;I supposed I&#039;m just lucky I didn&#039;t end up with beer cases power stapled to the window frame...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post &#8211; I guess it&#39;s easy to overlook that bias when it doesn&#39;t surround you immediately. I guess I should feel thankful for that. </p>
<p>My boyfriend and I did have a good laugh over this article though&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_2029326_haircut-groom-wedding.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ehow.com/how_2029326_haircut-groom-wedding.html</a></p>
<p>particularly the later steps in the process. Ummm are you marrying a 12-year old? </p>
<p>oh and @McV&#8230; you made me laugh out loud at my desk &quot;I supposed I&#39;m just lucky I didn&#39;t end up with beer cases power stapled to the window frame&#8230;&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a truly timely post. Last night I was doing some vendor wrangling, and my fiance some other work on his computer. (My fiance is much closer to the classic &quot;You-plan-it-all-my-only-job-is-to-show-up-right?&quot; stereotype which is interesting as he&#039;s so attentive and thoughful about everything else. Despite being slightly mystified, I slog on.) And suddendly he looked up and said, &quot;Thanks for doing all of this. I just looked through all the e-mails you CC&#039;ed me on and all the people you hired are awesome. The place looks really cool. This is gonna be a really fun time. Let me know if you need any help.&quot; Then just like that, he was back to his screen...and I have never loved him more. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is so sad, like many people posted above, that the sexism around weddings paralysed him so deeply he hadn&#039;t even looked at ANY of the e-mails over a YEAR of planning. He just asked me about a suit this morning. I almost cried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a truly timely post. Last night I was doing some vendor wrangling, and my fiance some other work on his computer. (My fiance is much closer to the classic &quot;You-plan-it-all-my-only-job-is-to-show-up-right?&quot; stereotype which is interesting as he&#39;s so attentive and thoughful about everything else. Despite being slightly mystified, I slog on.) And suddendly he looked up and said, &quot;Thanks for doing all of this. I just looked through all the e-mails you CC&#39;ed me on and all the people you hired are awesome. The place looks really cool. This is gonna be a really fun time. Let me know if you need any help.&quot; Then just like that, he was back to his screen&#8230;and I have never loved him more. </p>
<p>It is so sad, like many people posted above, that the sexism around weddings paralysed him so deeply he hadn&#39;t even looked at ANY of the e-mails over a YEAR of planning. He just asked me about a suit this morning. I almost cried.</p>
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