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	<title>Comments on: I Love Being A Wife (Part II)</title>
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		<title>By: Nikidy</title>
		<link>http://apracticalwedding.com/2010/06/i-love-being-a-wife-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-46157</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 05:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know i&#039;m totally late to the party on this post, but i have to say i love it, as i have lots of homeward-feeling desires, and ideally will go down to part-time/creative work instead of retail or office work (IDEALLY-ideally i&#039;ll just potter along doing anthropological research by myself, though if i have to go full time, i want to lecture. which there are no jobs in hahahaha).
One trend i&#039;ve noticed with the comments, however, is the conflation of stay-at-home wife and stay-at-home *mother*. One thing i&#039;ve been struggling with is the perception people would have of me, if i get to be a stay at home wife - without kids. (no plans to, ever. it is just not in either his or my life plans.)
I logically know that being a SAHW is possible without kids, but the constant conflation of staying home and having kids is indicative of the perceptions of others in general, which makes me kind of sad/annoyed. Surely i&#039;m allowed to reclaim wife, and reclaim the position of stay-at-home wife, without reproducing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know i&#8217;m totally late to the party on this post, but i have to say i love it, as i have lots of homeward-feeling desires, and ideally will go down to part-time/creative work instead of retail or office work (IDEALLY-ideally i&#8217;ll just potter along doing anthropological research by myself, though if i have to go full time, i want to lecture. which there are no jobs in hahahaha).<br />
One trend i&#8217;ve noticed with the comments, however, is the conflation of stay-at-home wife and stay-at-home *mother*. One thing i&#8217;ve been struggling with is the perception people would have of me, if i get to be a stay at home wife &#8211; without kids. (no plans to, ever. it is just not in either his or my life plans.)<br />
I logically know that being a SAHW is possible without kids, but the constant conflation of staying home and having kids is indicative of the perceptions of others in general, which makes me kind of sad/annoyed. Surely i&#8217;m allowed to reclaim wife, and reclaim the position of stay-at-home wife, without reproducing?</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s totally supportive in all kinds of ways, and I&#039;ve found a good balance in being able to manage our domestic affairs and have a little something for myself on the side. I am a certified fitness instruction and I teach several classes a week. I absolutely love it! I hope to start working on my personal trainer certification this fall (if the money is there, we&#039;re saving). 

It&#039;s the little something I do for myself that fulfills me and allows me to give back to others. I love performing and teaching, coaching, motivating, really getting outside of myself and giving to others and fitness instruction suits me to a T!

But no matter what, if there&#039;s something in life I want to explore, I explore it, as long as it&#039;s healthy and not self-destructive. I take my time with it, come at it slowly, just sort of let it happen organically. I&#039;m very fortunate to have Matt by my side. With him, anything is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s totally supportive in all kinds of ways, and I&#8217;ve found a good balance in being able to manage our domestic affairs and have a little something for myself on the side. I am a certified fitness instruction and I teach several classes a week. I absolutely love it! I hope to start working on my personal trainer certification this fall (if the money is there, we&#8217;re saving). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the little something I do for myself that fulfills me and allows me to give back to others. I love performing and teaching, coaching, motivating, really getting outside of myself and giving to others and fitness instruction suits me to a T!</p>
<p>But no matter what, if there&#8217;s something in life I want to explore, I explore it, as long as it&#8217;s healthy and not self-destructive. I take my time with it, come at it slowly, just sort of let it happen organically. I&#8217;m very fortunate to have Matt by my side. With him, anything is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: A Feminist Wife &#124; Small Strokes</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Feminist Wife &#124; Small Strokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Feminist Wife Posted by Ashley on July 19, 2010 at 7:58 am.   “Some women choose to follow men, and some women choose to follow their dreams. If you’re wondering which way to go, remember that your career will never wake up and tell you that it doesn’t love you anymore.” &#8211; Lady Gaga (h/t mmmfeminism) &#8220;I’m not much for the 9 to 5. I’m not much for the rules and frustrations of the working world, and for the endless willingness to bend your will and sell your soul that comes with a paycheck. I simply don’t work like that. But I excel at counsel, compassion, cleanliness, and mowing the lawn. Since I met my husband, we fell into rather traditional roles. Not because we had to but because that is the people that we are and it works for us. Surprisingly, I found that it doesn’t make us old fashioned or conformists, it makes us simply who we are and, honestly, my wild heart could use a little taming …&#8221; &#8211; Cindy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A Feminist Wife Posted by Ashley on July 19, 2010 at 7:58 am.   “Some women choose to follow men, and some women choose to follow their dreams. If you’re wondering which way to go, remember that your career will never wake up and tell you that it doesn’t love you anymore.” &#8211; Lady Gaga (h/t mmmfeminism) &#8220;I’m not much for the 9 to 5. I’m not much for the rules and frustrations of the working world, and for the endless willingness to bend your will and sell your soul that comes with a paycheck. I simply don’t work like that. But I excel at counsel, compassion, cleanliness, and mowing the lawn. Since I met my husband, we fell into rather traditional roles. Not because we had to but because that is the people that we are and it works for us. Surprisingly, I found that it doesn’t make us old fashioned or conformists, it makes us simply who we are and, honestly, my wild heart could use a little taming …&#8221; &#8211; Cindy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I do want to discuss the issue of this inequality. It bothers me that he is enabling her to do what she wants while she is enabling him to live the same life but easier.&quot;

I agree with Meg that thinking about roles this way can lead to money being equated with power, which is really dangerous (and maybe a big part of what made it necessary to reclaim the word wife in the first place).  Our mothers/grandmothers saw that money equaled power in male/female relationships and wanted to get out into the workplace as a way of taking some of that power for themselves.  And they made enormous headway, and we are beyond lucky to be born when we were.

BUT, it seems like what we are trying to do here and in our lives is not to continue to claim power in the same way our mothers did but to altogether break away from the narrative that says that money equals power -- to remove (to whatever extent this is possible) those kind of power struggles from our marriages.  (Keep them in the workplace by all means, effing .70 on the dollar)  Saying that a working husband is enabling his stay-at-home wife to do what she wants, that he could get along without her but not she without him, seems to me to be buying into that same power structure -- privileging his money-making position.  

It&#039;s hard - I have that same gut reaction (that I assume you are having) of this fear that the woman is setting herself up for financial devastation in the event the unthinkable happens -- that she&#039;s got to protect herself!  But I think that comes from that same dichotomous thinking in which the partner-making-money is seen as the truly important one in the relationship.  And this seems somewhat contrary to &quot;partnership&quot; to me.  

I&#039;m not sure what the answer is to this, except, as always, talk about it and think about it and work out for yourself what works.  As disclosure, I left my job as a lawyer just before my fiancee and I got engaged, and I&#039;ve been acting as a (really bad) housewife (seriously, I&#039;d fire myself, but I&#039;m learning!) while I spend time figuring out what I want to do.  

It was way harder for me to think of the money my fiancee makes at his job as our money and to consider my contributions to our relationship important than it was for him.  It&#039;s starting to sink in slowly, though, that you can&#039;t measure contributions to relationships in that way.  How we support ourselves, keep our house clean, etc, are questions that are separate in a way from how we think about equality in our partnership.  In a way, unfortunately, that is hard to articulate because it is still emerging (and because it may always ????? change).  

Part of it is that we make decisions together (financial and otherwise), and we think about possible future outcomes of our relationship together, and we are committed to together ensuring that each of us is in a position to start an individual life again should something terrible happen.  Another part of it is that we talk together about what we can do to make our lives fulfilling as a We and as two I&#039;s, whether he wants to continue at this job, whether I want to work as a lawyer or a teacher or not at all, whether we want to travel more, whatever.

I&#039;m starting to ramble so I&#039;m going to stop.  I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve said anything that hasn&#039;t already been said before, but I&#039;m so happy this conversation is happening and that I get to be a small part of this building process.  It&#039;s just so damn exciting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I do want to discuss the issue of this inequality. It bothers me that he is enabling her to do what she wants while she is enabling him to live the same life but easier.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with Meg that thinking about roles this way can lead to money being equated with power, which is really dangerous (and maybe a big part of what made it necessary to reclaim the word wife in the first place).  Our mothers/grandmothers saw that money equaled power in male/female relationships and wanted to get out into the workplace as a way of taking some of that power for themselves.  And they made enormous headway, and we are beyond lucky to be born when we were.</p>
<p>BUT, it seems like what we are trying to do here and in our lives is not to continue to claim power in the same way our mothers did but to altogether break away from the narrative that says that money equals power &#8212; to remove (to whatever extent this is possible) those kind of power struggles from our marriages.  (Keep them in the workplace by all means, effing .70 on the dollar)  Saying that a working husband is enabling his stay-at-home wife to do what she wants, that he could get along without her but not she without him, seems to me to be buying into that same power structure &#8212; privileging his money-making position.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard &#8211; I have that same gut reaction (that I assume you are having) of this fear that the woman is setting herself up for financial devastation in the event the unthinkable happens &#8212; that she&#8217;s got to protect herself!  But I think that comes from that same dichotomous thinking in which the partner-making-money is seen as the truly important one in the relationship.  And this seems somewhat contrary to &#8220;partnership&#8221; to me.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the answer is to this, except, as always, talk about it and think about it and work out for yourself what works.  As disclosure, I left my job as a lawyer just before my fiancee and I got engaged, and I&#8217;ve been acting as a (really bad) housewife (seriously, I&#8217;d fire myself, but I&#8217;m learning!) while I spend time figuring out what I want to do.  </p>
<p>It was way harder for me to think of the money my fiancee makes at his job as our money and to consider my contributions to our relationship important than it was for him.  It&#8217;s starting to sink in slowly, though, that you can&#8217;t measure contributions to relationships in that way.  How we support ourselves, keep our house clean, etc, are questions that are separate in a way from how we think about equality in our partnership.  In a way, unfortunately, that is hard to articulate because it is still emerging (and because it may always ????? change).  </p>
<p>Part of it is that we make decisions together (financial and otherwise), and we think about possible future outcomes of our relationship together, and we are committed to together ensuring that each of us is in a position to start an individual life again should something terrible happen.  Another part of it is that we talk together about what we can do to make our lives fulfilling as a We and as two I&#8217;s, whether he wants to continue at this job, whether I want to work as a lawyer or a teacher or not at all, whether we want to travel more, whatever.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to ramble so I&#8217;m going to stop.  I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve said anything that hasn&#8217;t already been said before, but I&#8217;m so happy this conversation is happening and that I get to be a small part of this building process.  It&#8217;s just so damn exciting!</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After re-reading this post and all of the comments, I should have stated that I do work. I didn&#039;t realize it would read like I don&#039;t; however, if I came home one day and told my husband I quit my job, he&#039;d just say, &quot;Alright, you wanna go out and get drinks to celebrate?&quot;

Matt and I do make a lot of (what some would call) sacrifices as we do attempt to live off of one salary as best we can. We live in a modest home (that we are selling to buy a better modest home so I can have a vegetable garden). We don&#039;t have cable television. We eat in a lot. We don&#039;t take extravagant vacations. We don&#039;t own a lot of clothes or shoes or accessories. Our furniture doubles as scratching posts for our three cats. Our cars and motorcycle, while nice, are all used--bought and paid for. Etc, etc, etc ...

Matt is always encouraging me to move forward with things I love. I suppose him doing that with his business makes him be a lot more understanding in that regard. I&#039;ve been teaching Spin classes for months now and am working on a group exercise and personal trainer certification and hope someday to make that be what I do when I&#039;m not busy cooking and gardening and cleaning and making our house a home. It doesn&#039;t have to pay me a lot, but I want to love it, you know?

I think more than anything else in this world, people should find a partner that accepts, appreciates, and individuality. I never thought being married would make me feel so free in every aspect in life. I mean, hey, anyone who is willing to listen to me sing made-up &quot;Babby Got Back&quot; lyrics to the cat while I&#039;m making coffee in the morning has to be the one for me, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After re-reading this post and all of the comments, I should have stated that I do work. I didn&#8217;t realize it would read like I don&#8217;t; however, if I came home one day and told my husband I quit my job, he&#8217;d just say, &#8220;Alright, you wanna go out and get drinks to celebrate?&#8221;</p>
<p>Matt and I do make a lot of (what some would call) sacrifices as we do attempt to live off of one salary as best we can. We live in a modest home (that we are selling to buy a better modest home so I can have a vegetable garden). We don&#8217;t have cable television. We eat in a lot. We don&#8217;t take extravagant vacations. We don&#8217;t own a lot of clothes or shoes or accessories. Our furniture doubles as scratching posts for our three cats. Our cars and motorcycle, while nice, are all used&#8211;bought and paid for. Etc, etc, etc &#8230;</p>
<p>Matt is always encouraging me to move forward with things I love. I suppose him doing that with his business makes him be a lot more understanding in that regard. I&#8217;ve been teaching Spin classes for months now and am working on a group exercise and personal trainer certification and hope someday to make that be what I do when I&#8217;m not busy cooking and gardening and cleaning and making our house a home. It doesn&#8217;t have to pay me a lot, but I want to love it, you know?</p>
<p>I think more than anything else in this world, people should find a partner that accepts, appreciates, and individuality. I never thought being married would make me feel so free in every aspect in life. I mean, hey, anyone who is willing to listen to me sing made-up &#8220;Babby Got Back&#8221; lyrics to the cat while I&#8217;m making coffee in the morning has to be the one for me, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always fantasize about stay at home wifedom when I am burned out and exhausted, because I envision peaceful, quiet, low-stress days. Cooking and cleaning are meditative for me, if I can do them without time pressure. Gardening definitely is meditative. And practical, tangible work like that is healing for me when my mind is exhausted.

But I also crave work of the mind to do -- problem-solving, writing, creating, all things that the outside world will pay me to do. So what I really want is an intellectually engaging job that doesn&#039;t stress me out and burn me out. Being a SAHW as my full time job would not make me happy. I would get bored and resentful.

What I really need is time off, but gender roles affect how I think of that. A married woman not working outside the home is a SAHW or housewife, while a married man is just not working.

Being so burned out at your job that you can&#039;t even figure out what you &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; excited about doing isn&#039;t the same thing as necessarily wanting to stay at home. Needing to take time off isn&#039;t the same thing as becoming a SAHW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always fantasize about stay at home wifedom when I am burned out and exhausted, because I envision peaceful, quiet, low-stress days. Cooking and cleaning are meditative for me, if I can do them without time pressure. Gardening definitely is meditative. And practical, tangible work like that is healing for me when my mind is exhausted.</p>
<p>But I also crave work of the mind to do &#8212; problem-solving, writing, creating, all things that the outside world will pay me to do. So what I really want is an intellectually engaging job that doesn&#8217;t stress me out and burn me out. Being a SAHW as my full time job would not make me happy. I would get bored and resentful.</p>
<p>What I really need is time off, but gender roles affect how I think of that. A married woman not working outside the home is a SAHW or housewife, while a married man is just not working.</p>
<p>Being so burned out at your job that you can&#8217;t even figure out what you <i>are</i> excited about doing isn&#8217;t the same thing as necessarily wanting to stay at home. Needing to take time off isn&#8217;t the same thing as becoming a SAHW.</p>
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		<title>By: meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 03:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay for us 7:30 to 3:30-ers. Best schedule in the world, by my reckoning (then again, I face another days work when I get home. Still. Going.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay for us 7:30 to 3:30-ers. Best schedule in the world, by my reckoning (then again, I face another days work when I get home. Still. Going.)</p>
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		<title>By: Charise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 02:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was having similar thoughts about the two different &quot;wife&quot; roles we are talking about. Cooking, cleaning, listening - these are just as likely to be the husband&#039;s (or BOTH partners!) &quot;job&quot;.

I do not love my job, but I like it. I like the ability to travel/eat at nice restaurants/etc. that comes with two incomes. I like the 9-5 (or in my case, 7:30-3:30) structure.

I never thought I&#039;d be a stay at home person, but I am really starting to struggle with the whole thing - once kids come in the picture, I think I&#039;d go crazy not having a professional life and  having my control-freak, ultra stubborn and independent self financially dependent on my partner, but also go crazy having someone else be responsible for the kids all day.

I guess what I want is what Meg says later in the comments - the flexibility to work from home, or take a few years off and jump right back in. Finding you own good work/life balance is all part of the reclaiming wife and building the best baby family for you, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was having similar thoughts about the two different &#8220;wife&#8221; roles we are talking about. Cooking, cleaning, listening &#8211; these are just as likely to be the husband&#8217;s (or BOTH partners!) &#8220;job&#8221;.</p>
<p>I do not love my job, but I like it. I like the ability to travel/eat at nice restaurants/etc. that comes with two incomes. I like the 9-5 (or in my case, 7:30-3:30) structure.</p>
<p>I never thought I&#8217;d be a stay at home person, but I am really starting to struggle with the whole thing &#8211; once kids come in the picture, I think I&#8217;d go crazy not having a professional life and  having my control-freak, ultra stubborn and independent self financially dependent on my partner, but also go crazy having someone else be responsible for the kids all day.</p>
<p>I guess what I want is what Meg says later in the comments &#8211; the flexibility to work from home, or take a few years off and jump right back in. Finding you own good work/life balance is all part of the reclaiming wife and building the best baby family for you, right?</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m Bernard&#8217;s Wife! &#171; Natasha the Newlywed</title>
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		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m Bernard&#8217;s Wife! &#171; Natasha the Newlywed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cindy a blogger who stated &#8221; I love being a wife&#8221;  You can read both of their blogs here and here.  It got me to thinking about the last year of my life.  I have been Dr. B&#8217;s stay [...]</description>
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		<title>By: meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we get into REALLY dicey waters when we start measuring our contributions to our relationships based on what we earn. REALLY dicey. That&#039;s when money starts equaling power. There are lots of ways for a couple to protect themselves with one person working. Basically, if you can afford to have one person working by choice? You can afford to cover your collective asses through savings/ life insurance/ any number of other things. I know bunches of couples, gay and straight (including my own relationship, including my parents relationship during most of my childhood) where one person is the primary breadwinner (for a million different reasons), and A) it works and B) asses are covered. It&#039;s not about both people hating 9-5. If you have that, it&#039;s a whole other puzzle. What it IS about is finding what works for US as a couple. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we get into REALLY dicey waters when we start measuring our contributions to our relationships based on what we earn. REALLY dicey. That&#8217;s when money starts equaling power. There are lots of ways for a couple to protect themselves with one person working. Basically, if you can afford to have one person working by choice? You can afford to cover your collective asses through savings/ life insurance/ any number of other things. I know bunches of couples, gay and straight (including my own relationship, including my parents relationship during most of my childhood) where one person is the primary breadwinner (for a million different reasons), and A) it works and B) asses are covered. It&#8217;s not about both people hating 9-5. If you have that, it&#8217;s a whole other puzzle. What it IS about is finding what works for US as a couple. Period.</p>
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